tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147631697089273467.post3890541668603416711..comments2024-03-27T06:48:56.874-05:00Comments on The Brownstone Birding Blog: The Problem With Juvenile SparrowsLarryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17955054342034509500noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147631697089273467.post-22894568301934032932007-08-15T18:45:00.000-05:002007-08-15T18:45:00.000-05:00Tom-Thanks for the input. You may be right, but fo...Tom-Thanks for the input. You may be right, but form the response I've had from various birders I think that I'm right about one thing.-Juvenile Sparrows are not always easy to identify.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17955054342034509500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147631697089273467.post-74113799391585279482007-08-14T11:33:00.000-05:002007-08-14T11:33:00.000-05:00Larry,the first sparrow appears to be a Swamp Spar...Larry,<BR/>the first sparrow appears to be a Swamp Sparrow, to my eye. It just doesn't look clean and crisp like most Lincoln's I see in the fall. The breast streaks a blurry and there seems to be the buffy flanks and reddish in the wings.Tom Pirrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12399923571288826319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147631697089273467.post-30989656479151391282007-08-08T13:41:00.000-05:002007-08-08T13:41:00.000-05:00Okay, I'm scared of butterflies but not afraid of ...Okay, I'm scared of butterflies but not afraid of making a fool out of myself trying to ID birds.<BR/><BR/>I'd say the top bird is a juvenile Lincoln's Sparrow...mind you, without a field guide handy and just going on first impressions of its GISS (and even if Lincoln's don't breed in Connecticut maybe this one is moving south early from New Hampshire or Maine?).<BR/><BR/>And I'm pretty sure that the second bird is not a grosbeak, though you're right it is not a great angle...the beak doesn't seem "gros" enough and a white stripe should continue over the eye. What it is though...well, I have no freaking idea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147631697089273467.post-8358050167037790042007-08-08T09:39:00.000-05:002007-08-08T09:39:00.000-05:00I do what Mary does--try to get a good close-up ph...I do what Mary does--try to get a good close-up photo and then hit the field guides. But juveniles leave me in the dust!<BR/><BR/>It's been so stinkin' hot that I haven't been out in the field for over a month; bring on the autumn, already!dguzmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01811101661607351661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147631697089273467.post-73567545701085605852007-08-08T07:08:00.000-05:002007-08-08T07:08:00.000-05:00Larry,Sparrow IDs are very difficult for me also. ...Larry,<BR/><BR/>Sparrow IDs are very difficult for me also. Experienced birders often have trouble, too. I never try to ID a sparrow unless I can get a decent close-up photo and refer to my field guides. And sometimes I'm still wrong! The only sparrows I'm confident in IDing would be chipping or white-throated - those sparrows with distinguishing markings.Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02040099513110890878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147631697089273467.post-2753060946671806792007-08-07T19:38:00.000-05:002007-08-07T19:38:00.000-05:00Oh, Larry! Again - You lucky. I want to see a Bo...Oh, Larry! Again - You lucky. I want to see a Bobolink so much. I suppose if I get out to the areas I need too - I might find them - But - they won't be singing I suppose. It's late in the year.Cathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00548755592157386484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147631697089273467.post-86850398505622683292007-08-07T16:00:00.000-05:002007-08-07T16:00:00.000-05:00Ron-It's not hard to see species like that-just ge...Ron-It's not hard to see species like that-just get out in the field!<BR/>Patrick-I had the field guide in front of me and I'm still not positive on that sparrow.<BR/><BR/>Ruthiej-thanks for the link.<BR/><BR/>Lynne-The thought of you with your eyes twirling paints a rather humorous picture in my mind.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17955054342034509500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147631697089273467.post-324396595876677662007-08-07T09:45:00.000-05:002007-08-07T09:45:00.000-05:00Immature sparrows are so hard- I am easily frustr...Immature sparrows are so hard- I am easily frustrated on those id's. Even more frustrating for me are the fall warblers. Darn near every one of them is yellow/olive, olive/yellow/gray, gray/olive, olive/yellow/olive....<BR/><BR/>They make my eyes twirl! <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link Ruthie! I've been looking for a good moth site.Lynne at Hasty Brookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09187035706322695138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147631697089273467.post-53853277235593360252007-08-07T08:29:00.000-05:002007-08-07T08:29:00.000-05:00Hi Larry,Definitely a Spicebush Swallowtail. The w...Hi Larry,<BR/>Definitely a Spicebush Swallowtail. The white dots along the edge of the wings gives it away. Here's a good website that may help you till you find your field guide again.<BR/>http://www.butterfliesandmoths.orgRuthieJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663411478574192825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147631697089273467.post-15445644430333829722007-08-07T06:44:00.000-05:002007-08-07T06:44:00.000-05:00I think it's a Spicebush. I don't think Giant Swal...I think it's a Spicebush. I don't think Giant Swallowtails occur in your area. I'm not touching that sparrow without a field guide handy.Patrick B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09080082715363887351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8147631697089273467.post-69178292725393885402007-08-06T22:28:00.000-05:002007-08-06T22:28:00.000-05:00Larry Looks more like a giant swallowtail from th...Larry Looks more like a giant swallowtail from this angle. I am not sure though, but if I were a betting man, that would be my guess. Nice group of birds you spotted...I dream of spotting those species some day.<BR/><BR/>RonNM High School Sports Newshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06493970709644500432noreply@blogger.com